{"id":391,"date":"2014-08-29T09:40:20","date_gmt":"2014-08-29T09:40:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/2014\/08\/29\/getting-out-of-god-s-way\/"},"modified":"2014-08-29T09:40:20","modified_gmt":"2014-08-29T09:40:20","slug":"getting-out-of-god-s-way","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/getting-out-of-god-s-way\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cGetting Out of God\u2019s Way\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><em>Presented by Chris Oberg<\/em><\/i><br \/> <span style=\"color: #696969;\">24 August 2012, Roga\u0161ka Slatina, Slovenia\u00a0[John Surridge,\u00a0<em style=\"padding: 0px; margin: 0px;\">ted<\/em>NEWS]<\/span>\u00a0Pastor Chris Oberg was the first female speaker at the EPC\u2019s plenary sessions. Despite her surname she is an American, though as she hastily pointed out, she feels very at home in Europe.<i> \u201cOne day, if North America gets tired of me, I\u2019m coming to you!\u201d she said.<\/i><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: #ffffff;\">\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Pastor Oberg came to address the EPC as a fellow pastor.<i> \u201cIt doesn\u2019t matter how big or small your congregation is,\u201d <\/i>she said,<i> \u201cbecause all of our church members have the same needs.\u201d S<\/i>he continued that perhaps, one day, she should write a book called <i>\u201cThe Good, the Bad and the Ugly\u201d. <\/i>Drawing on a few of her more unusual experiences in ministry she spoke of the good days, when people come to her requesting baptism; bad days when members come with a long list of criticisms; and weird days \u2013 like when a woman came to her with a vision from the Holy Spirit, and delivered the church from an evil spirit! Relating the story to her husband she said, <i>\u201cI\u2019ve just met a woman I don\u2019t know, who cured us of an evil spirit I didn\u2019t know we had!\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Affirmative mumblings from the audience suggested that many such strange experiences could be gleaned from the fields of the Trans-European Division.<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Speaking of fields, Pastor Oberg\u2019s address was based on Matthew 13:24-30, where Jesus tells the parable of the wheat and the planted weeds. The story is familiar to all but it soon became clear that Pastor Oberg was not going to be content with a straight exposition of the text. This was certainly included but the overriding message she had to give was actually about the way we interpret the scriptures.<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><i>\u201cInterpretations of Jesus words can become fratricidal weapons,\u201d <\/i>she said. For example, think about the things we say Jesus doesn\u2019t like: Children who run in the sanctuary, teenagers with spiky hair, youth with tattoos, those who have pre-marital sex, those who are attracted to people of the same gender&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"img-right\" style=\"width: 220px; height: 147px;\" src=\"..\/sites\/default\/files\/EPC-Plenary-reading_the_bible-m_0.jpg\" alt=\"\" align=\"right\" \/>Referring back to the text in Matthew, Pastor Oberg outlined a brief history of its interpretation: the almost allegorical words of Matthew which immediately follow Jesus\u2019 own words; the preferences of the Donatists and Augustinians; the harsh and even harsher words of the Reformers, some of which led to burnings at the stake!<i> \u201cIt is not Jesus,\u201d <\/i>said Pastor Oberg,<i> \u201cit is interpretations on Jesus that seem to do the damage.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">In a humorous aside she related an account of the time when she was studying the text using an online research tool. As she was reading the words about the weeds being burned up, the sophisticated, context sensitive, advertising engine flashed up an advert at the side of the screen: for weedkiller!<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><i>\u201cThe parable clearly says leave the weeds alone,\u201d <\/i>she said.<i> \u201cGood people belong to God, bad people belong to the devil.\u201d <\/i>We overcomplicate it when we add our own interpretation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">As an illustration of just how we can manipulate texts through our own interpretation, Pastor Oberg presented a two and a half minute video of how the text could possibly be seen. With dark, stormy images, and a heavy, minor-key soundtrack, the satanic weeds were pictured infiltrating the otherwise healthy field. The concluding words:<i> \u201cHarvest Time is Coming!\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><i><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"img-right\" style=\"width: 180px; height: 222px;\" src=\"..\/sites\/default\/files\/EPC-Plenary-participants%20%281%29-m_2.jpg\" alt=\"\" align=\"right\" \/>\u201cIn the context of 2012,\u201d <\/i>said Pastor Oberg,<i> \u201cwe must ask, what does this message sound like to the world today?\u201d <\/i>The issue is not just one of biblical interpretation; it\u2019s about the picture of God that we present to the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Graphically illustrating our damaged and fractured world, through images of violence, protests and riots, Pastor Oberg pointed out that many of these events were driven by religious conviction and ideology.<i> \u201cIt\u2019s not Jesus\u2019 words that are doing this,\u201d <\/i>she said,<i> \u201cit\u2019s people\u2019s interpretations, and interpretations of those interpretations.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">In the United States some 20% of people who call themselves Christians don\u2019t live inside the Christian community. The question we need to ask is, <i>\u201cDo people walk away because of OUR interpretations?\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">With an illustration from her own life Pastor Oberg told of an occasion when she had returned home, carrying the frustrations and burdens of a hard day at the office. After a while she realized that her teenage daughter had disappeared. Why? \u201c<i>It\u2019s easier for me to be somewhere else while you work it out,\u201d she had said.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">So it is for the world. While we are trying to sort out what Jesus likes, the world prefers to be somewhere else.<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Returning to the exposition, Pastor Oberg said,<i> \u201cWe need to hear Matthew\u2019s voice as Matthew\u2019s voice. We have to understand that he has a leaning towards the apocalyptic. He has seen the destruction of the temple. He has seen his people dispersed. He is shouting the message, \u2018This evil will end one day! If it takes a fire God will bring a fire!\u2019\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><i>\u201cBut this is not the only interpretation in this parable,\u201d <\/i>Pastor Oberg continued.<i> \u201cMatthew is inviting us to bring our own interpretation to the text. Matthew has moved on and God has moved on. We need radically new interpretations in the world in which we live.\u201d <\/i>We need to ask ourselves,<i> \u201cWhen does the Jesus we present to the world not look like the God of love that we know from the scripture?\u201d <\/i>We need to ask ourselves,<i> \u201cWhen has my need to be right impacted my interpretation of Jesus in a negative way in this world.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"img-left\" style=\"width: 220px; height: 170px;\" src=\"..\/sites\/default\/files\/Chris_Oberg%281%29-m_0.jpg\" alt=\"\" align=\"left\" \/>In another personal aside Pastor Oberg related that she was actually adopted, and still doesn\u2019t know who her birth parents were. As a baby she was left outside an Adventist hospital in Portland, Oregon, presumably because her mother believed that the church would take good care of her. She has since grown up an Adventist and remains an Adventist through and through. But, she said,<i> \u201cSometimes it\u2019s time to call question on our interpretation and ask, is it us? Is it our interpretation that keeps people in the world rather than in the church with us? Adventist Christians have always believed that truth is on the move. It is authentically Adventist to ask these questions.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Returning to the parable Pastor Oberg presented her own, alternative, view.<i> \u201cI suggest that in this parable we are not talking about the church or church membership, discipline, doctrine, or orthodoxy. We\u2019re talking about life in the world, and the struggle to live a God-focused life in a world of evil\u2026 The wheat and weeds can be thought of as something other than people: they can be our actions, our choices, our realities\u2026 God will not be removing the bad today or any time soon. Live with it. We\u2019re not asked to solve the problem. In fact, if we try we will only make it worse.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">In her concluding comments Pastor Oberg quoted the words of Ellen White in Christ\u2019s Object Lessons. <i>\u201cPeople long to do something to cleanse the church\u2026 But it is the spirit of Satan not the Spirit of Christ, that inspires such acts.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Appealing to the pastors present she continued, <i>\u201cThis is God\u2019s work and sometimes we need to get out of the way so that God\u2019s good creation can hear Him calling them home. The Good News is so good as it stands that sometimes it is at risk by how we describe it. God is the one at risk today. Are we telling the truth about God?\u201d <\/i>[<em>t<\/em><i><em>ed<\/em><\/i>NEWS]<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><em>ted<\/em>NEWS Staff: Miroslav Pujic, director; Deana Stojkovic, editor; Dragana Selakovic-Duval; Frederic Duval &amp; Tor Tjeransen, photographers<br \/> 119 St Peter&#8217;s Street, St Albans, Herts, AL1 3EY, England<br \/> E-mail: tednews@ted-adventist.org<br \/> Website: www.ted-adventist.org<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\"><em>ted<\/em>NEWS is an information bulletin issued by the communication department of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in the Trans-European Division.<br \/> You are free to re-print any portion of the bulletin without need for special permission. However, we kindly request that you identify\u00a0<em>ted<\/em>NEWS whenever you publish these materials.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><i><em>Presented by Chris Oberg<\/em><\/i><br \/> <span style=\"color: #696969;\">24 August 2012, Roga\u0161ka Slatina, Slovenia\u00a0[John Surridge,\u00a0<em style=\"padding: 0px; margin: 0px;\">ted<\/em>NEWS]<\/span>\u00a0Pastor Chris Oberg was the first female speaker at the EPC\u2019s plenary sessions. Despite her surname she is an American, though as she hastily pointed out, she feels very at home in Europe.<i> \u201cOne day, if North America gets tired of me, I\u2019m coming to you!\u201d she said.<\/i><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: #ffffff;\">\n<p class=\"rtejustify\" style=\"color: #222222; text-align: justify;\">Pastor Oberg came to address the EPC as a fellow pastor.<i> \u201cIt doesn\u2019t matter how big or small your congregation is,\u201d <\/i>she said,<i> \u201cbecause all of our church members have the same needs.\u201d S<\/i>he continued that perhaps, one day, she should write a book called <i>\u201cThe Good, the Bad and the Ugly\u201d. <\/i>Drawing on a few of her more unusual experiences in ministry she spoke of the good days, when people come to her requesting baptism; bad days when members come with a long list of criticisms; and weird days \u2013 like when a woman came to her with a vision from the Holy Spirit, and delivered the church from an evil spirit! Relating the story to her husband she said, <i>\u201cI\u2019ve just met a woman I don\u2019t know, who cured us of an evil spirit I didn\u2019t know we had!\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1570,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-391","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-discipleship-spiritual-growth","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/391","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=391"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/391\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=391"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=391"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=391"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}