{"id":386,"date":"2014-08-29T09:27:59","date_gmt":"2014-08-29T09:27:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/2014\/08\/29\/but-i-give-you-what-i-have\/"},"modified":"2014-08-29T09:27:59","modified_gmt":"2014-08-29T09:27:59","slug":"but-i-give-you-what-i-have","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/but-i-give-you-what-i-have\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cBut I Give You What I Have\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

Presented by\u00a0Dennis Meier<\/em>
23 August, 2012 Roga\u0161ka Slatina, Slovenia [John Surridge,\u00a0ted<\/em>NEWS]<\/span>\u00a0Shunning technology Pastor Dennis Meier, a minister in Hamburg, used a paper flip chart to illustrate his presentation on Acts 3:1-11, the story of Peter and John and the healing of the lame man. This approach was an early indicator of the low-key, European style, that would be used, and it went down well with his congregation. \u201cJust call me Dennis,\u201d he told them.<\/p>\n

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<\/a>Dennis\u2019s humour quickly became apparent when he talked about his first experience of preaching. Noting the lack of response he concluded, \u201cwhether you preach a sermon or a man from China drops a bag of rice\u201d<\/em> it doesn\u2019t make a difference. Although this works better as a German idiom the point was well made. Which of the pastors present had not experienced the same thing? Hoping for a miracle, a revolution in the church, the actual response to our sermons is usually somewhat less.<\/p>\n

Years later when studying theology, Dennis came across the works of Karl Barth, and one quote in particular helped him to put his preaching into perspective. \u201cWe ought to speak of God, but cannot because we are humans and as such we are unable to speak of God.\u201d In other words, Dennis said, I struggle with the task of preaching and being a minister. It\u2019s not something we find easy to talk about. I\u2019d love to tell you about how I went to a church of five people yesterday and how today it has 50 million members. But the fact is that my church has actually shrunk over the eight years that I\u2019ve been a minister there. \u201cIf numbers are the measure of success then I am in the wrong place, but if you are in the same position, then, welcome.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

It was clear from the warm response that many in the audience felt the same way and, having established a relationship with them Dennis began his systematic exposition of Acts 3:1-11.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Five points emerged from the text \u2013 things which Peter and John did differently after they had been filled with the Holy Spirit.<\/p>\n

Firstly, said Dennis, they \u201cmingled with the crowd\u201d<\/em>. They went where the people were. As Adventists we tend to be more comfortable with the metaphor of the light on the hill than the salt in the food. With our established buildings and our structured worship times there is a danger of us becoming isolated. The early church met daily in people\u2019s houses, not as some kind of evangelistic enterprise but simply because their piety was expressed in their everyday lives.<\/p>\n

The second key aspect of Peter and John\u2019s ministry was their \u201cseeing\u201d. Though they may have walked past the beggar many times before, this time they really saw him. They saw the potential and they saw a child of God. \u201cWe as pastors,\u201d<\/em> said Dennis, \u201cneed to develop the skill of seeing. This is where true vision comes from.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

The issue of seeing is such an important part of ministry that Dennis went further in his discussion of it. True seeing may involve disturbance<\/strong>, he said. Peter and John may have had a plan for the day but they were disturbed. Illustrating the point Dennis told a story of how he had been \u201cdisturbed\u201d by a difficult member when visiting a church in South Africa. He didn\u2019t want to spend time with this person but when he was invited back for lunch he became aware of their real needs and eventually was able to break down barriers.<\/p>\n

We also need to be open to paradox<\/strong>, as things don\u2019t always work out as we expect them to, Dennis continued. As an example he related how another difficult member had told him, \u201cEver since I stopped giving tithe my financial problems have all vanished!\u201d<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Seeing should lead to seeking<\/strong> the lost. Some of the most needy people are those whose actions have put them beyond the normal reach of the church. Speaking about those who have stopped attending church Dennis noted that many of these were people who had been through divorces. It\u2019s a subject we don\u2019t like to discuss, and these people, who are emotionally vulnerable, are also given the very clear impression that they are not wanted in church.<\/p>\n

More controversially, Dennis went on to mention homosexuals. To his almost silent audience he made the appeal, \u201cwe need to see all of these people<\/em>“.<\/p>\n

Returning to his main exposition Dennis raised the issue of \u201cnot having\u201d.\u00a0 As parish pastors we are like general practitioners and it is true that we need to be able to do lots of different things. \u201cBut this doesn\u2019t mean that we can good at everything,\u201d <\/em>he said. \u201cWe need to be able to talk about our fears and weakness, remembering that God\u2019s power is made perfect in our weakness\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n

But it is the \u201chaving\u201d that is the most exciting part of the text, where Peter says, \u201cWhat I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.\u201d We need to work with what we have, said Dennis, and we have what Peter and John had: access to a source of power that is unlimited.<\/p>\n

Finally, Dennis spoke on the \u201chealing\u201d part of the miracle. \u201cWe need to teach our members how to become an accepting church,\u201d <\/em>he said. \u201cMy intent to lead people from the fringes of the church to become committed followers of Jesus. We can only achieve this if we allow the fringes to be present\u2026 If all we preach is Laodicea we shouldn\u2019t be surprised if the fringes disappear.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

So as no one could be in any doubt as to what he actually meant by this, Dennis clarified that for him this means: straight and gay, married and co-habiting, meat eating and vegan. All of these should be welcome in our churches.<\/p>\n

As the once again subdued audience pondered the implications of this Dennis concluded by saying that, despite the challenges, it is actually the healed beggars that we want in our churches. They are the ones who leap and jump and praise God, and they are also the ones who get the crowds together so that others can find Jesus as well. [ted<\/em>NEWS]<\/p>\n

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23 August, 2012 Roga\u0161ka Slatina, Slovenia [John Surridge,\u00a0ted<\/em>NEWS]<\/span>\u00a0Shunning technology Pastor Dennis Meier, a minister in Hamburg, used a paper flip chart to illustrate his presentation on Acts 3:1-11, the story of Peter and John and the healing of the lame man. This approach was an early indicator of the low-key, European style, that would be used, and it went down well with his congregation. \u201cJust call me Dennis,\u201d he told them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,1577],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-386","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news","category-organisational-updates"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/386","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=386"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/386\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=386"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=386"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=386"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}