{"id":3481,"date":"2019-09-17T10:05:37","date_gmt":"2019-09-17T10:05:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/2019\/09\/17\/showing-up-for-inter-generational-communication\/"},"modified":"2019-09-17T10:05:37","modified_gmt":"2019-09-17T10:05:37","slug":"showing-up-for-inter-generational-communication","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/showing-up-for-inter-generational-communication\/","title":{"rendered":"Showing up for inter-generational communication"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>17 September 2019 | Bracknell, United Kingdom [Helen Pearson]<\/p>\n<p>\u2018How do human beings make space for God in their lives?\u2019 was the key question at the heart of the September Diversity Lecture \u2013 the first of the 2019 Autumn Semester at Newbold College on 10 September 2019.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" alignright size-full wp-image-3468\" style=\"margin: 5px 5px 5px 10px; float: right;\" title=\"Jennifer Logan \u2013 Scottish anthropologist, the youngest Diversity Lecturer at Newbold College. [Photo credit: Asun Olivan]\" src=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited.jpg\" alt=\"Newbold Diversity Lecture Sep 2019 4 edited\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-1536x863.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-500x280.jpg 500w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-800x450.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-1100x618.jpg 1100w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-350x197.jpg 350w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-700x393.jpg 700w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-900x506.jpg 900w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-4_edited-560x315.jpg 560w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>The speaker asking that question was the youngest-ever Diversity Lecturer \u2013 Scottish anthropologist, Jennifer Logan.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Anthropologists,&#8221; she said, &#8220;sit on the boundary \u2013 engaged enough to be able to <em>know<\/em> and far away enough to <em>observe<\/em>&#8220;. Logan\u2019s professional interest has been in the life journeys of religious people and how they \u2018make faith\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>The study she described in this lecture focused on a group of older Seventh-day Adventists who had been employed by the Seventh-day Adventist church in a variety of different capacities: pastors and their spouses, teachers, aid workers, administrators, secretaries. In a series of intensive interviews, she had explored their views on faith, on life in the church and inevitably, on changes in faith from the perspective of old age.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" alignleft size-full wp-image-3469\" style=\"margin: 5px 10px 5px 5px; float: left;\" src=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited.jpg\" alt=\"Newbold Diversity Lecture Sep 2019 6 edited\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-1024x577.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-1536x865.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-500x280.jpg 500w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-800x450.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-1100x619.jpg 1100w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-350x197.jpg 350w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-700x394.jpg 700w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-900x507.jpg 900w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-6_edited-560x315.jpg 560w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>She compared retirees to teenagers coming to terms with themselves. &#8220;Old age is a time \u2018for reformulating yourself, for self-evaluation&#8221;, she said. She observed how her interviewees were changing as they aged and how they negotiated new physical and mental experiences. She described the process of \u2018self-actualisation\u2019\u2013 how they were putting together the pieces of their lives past, present and future to make meaning.<\/p>\n<p>Their challenge is intensified if there is loss of memory. In that case, community \u2013 in this case, the church \u2013 becomes more important than ever. &#8220;As you lose yourself, you rely on the community to give you back a sense of who you think you are and who you were,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" alignright size-full wp-image-3474\" style=\"margin: 5px 5px 5px 10px; float: right;\" src=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited.jpg\" alt=\"Newbold Diversity Lecture Sep 2019 5 edited\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-1536x863.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-500x280.jpg 500w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-800x450.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-1100x618.jpg 1100w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-350x197.jpg 350w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-700x393.jpg 700w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-900x506.jpg 900w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-5_edited-560x315.jpg 560w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>One of the most significant adjustments is the business of coming to terms with your own death. For many retired Seventh-day Adventists, who had believed all their lives in the imminent return of Jesus, growing old was \u2018not meant to happen\u2019. &#8220;Making sense of the environment in which you find yourself now, is a challenge,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>So how did her interviewees think of God as they aged? Some saw God as a business manager or director, some as a God of justice, others as teacher, friend or a creative person. People reveal a lot about their picture of God in their accounts of &#8220;the ways they engage with God and with each other,&#8221; she said. Logan described this as a random rather than a systematic process which must make space for humanity. \u201cPeople make sense of God with as much mess as there is in other parts of life.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" alignright size-full wp-image-3475\" style=\"margin: 5px 5px 5px 10px; float: right;\" src=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited.jpg\" alt=\"Newbold Diversity Lecture Sep 2019 11 edited\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-500x280.jpg 500w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-800x450.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-1100x619.jpg 1100w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-350x197.jpg 350w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-700x394.jpg 700w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-900x506.jpg 900w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-11_edited-560x315.jpg 560w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>At every Diversity Lecture someone says, &#8220;The Q&amp;A was the best part&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>This one was no exception. People asked questions about methodology and confidentiality in a small community. Logan said that people had had the chance to &#8220;curate what they didn\u2019t want shared&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>There was a substantial discussion of pastoral identity and the difficulties of pastors being human with anyone except other pastors. Logan had found that some aging pastors have difficulty in coming to terms with who they are when they are no longer employed professionals.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" alignleft size-full wp-image-3477\" style=\"margin: 5px 10px 5px 5px; float: left;\" src=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/sitenews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited.jpg\" alt=\"Newbold Diversity Lecture Sep 2019 15 edited\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-1536x863.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-500x280.jpg 500w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-800x450.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-1100x618.jpg 1100w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-350x197.jpg 350w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-700x393.jpg 700w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-900x506.jpg 900w, https:\/\/ted.adventist.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images_news-2019_Newbold_Diversity_Lecture_Sep_2019-15_edited-560x315.jpg 560w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>When asked about her own response to her interviewees she stressed the need for \u2018the freedom to be human\u2019 in the church. She emphasised the importance of the work of establishing a trusting relationship especially for inter-generational listening and particularly when there are different views. \u201cPeople that I disagree with are worth turning up for and listening to,\u201d she said. When asked about how her research had affected her own perspectives on working for the church, Logan was clear: &#8220;This is a community I want to show up for!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em>The full lecture but NOT the Q&amp;A \u2013 is available on YouTube:<\/p>\n<p> https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ptR0MdyC1Zw&amp;feature=youtu<br \/><\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>ted<\/em>NEWS Staff: Victor Hulbert, editor; Deana Stojkovi\u0107, associate editor<br \/>119 St Peter&#8217;s Street, St Albans, Herts, AL1 3EY, England<br \/>E-mail: <a href=\"mailto:tednews@ted.adventist.org\">tednews@ted.adventist.org<\/a><br \/>Website: www.ted.adventist.org<br \/><em>ted<\/em>NEWS is an information bulletin issued by the communication department of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in the Trans-European Division. 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