David Neal:<\/strong> As editor of Adventist Review<\/em> and Executive Editor of Adventist Review Ministries<\/em>, what have been the highlights? <\/strong><\/p>\n Bill Knott: <\/strong><\/p>\n It\u2019s a long span to look back on! 25 years with the ministry, 16 in this role as Executive Editor. I would say the highlight for me has been the transformation, from historic journaling of the life of the Church, to a multi-media platform. The irony is that it happens to be someone who is deeply in love with books and paper who demanded that transition! I cannot be called a digital native or late comer, I\u2019m just not there. But I watched God bring to the ministry, beginning around 2015, an amazing collection of deeply gifted people and I watched as they began to create products, move the needle, and expand what we were doing. It was as if the traditional role and rule of the Adventist Review<\/em> suddenly became something much larger, more focussed on the diversity of the Church. All that happening, oddly enough, took place under the brain of a historian who love things that stay put. It\u2019s been a dynamic time and required all of us (myself included), to embrace more risk and more change than we probably ever thought necessary. And that\u2019s been for me the growth experience, to watch God reshape something we were all pretty happy with.<\/p>\n DN<\/strong>: So, the media has expanded, but the message has stayed the same.<\/strong><\/p>\n BK:<\/strong> There are so many ways to convey the central truths of Adventism! When you start bringing creatives around you, they have thought of 8, 10, 12 ways to do things that never occurred to you. Learning how to say \u2018yes\u2019 to those ideas, instead of the reflexive mode that the Church often has about new methodologies\u2026 Those experiences have reminded me that God has never kept creativity away from his people. He gives it liberally! Our role at the Review<\/em>, and more broadly in the Church, is to embrace that, to say \u2018yes\u2019 to that, to find ways to integrate those individuals in the life of our ministries.<\/p>\n DN:<\/strong> You have been a pastor to the Church through the printed page and the expanded media. Pastors have a vision and a dream for the Church. How would you like us to be, from where we are now?<\/strong><\/p>\n BK:<\/strong> I\u2019ve done a lot of thinking about that… In fact, we did a series in both journals \u2013 in Adventist Review<\/em> and Adventist World<\/em> for 15 months called \u201cThe Church I want to belong to<\/a>\u201d, in which we addressed important ideas about the Church, \u201cThe Church I want to belong to \u2018is safe\u2019.\u201d What does \u2018safety\u2019 mean? Is that just physical safety? In many places it must be underlined. What does it mean to be emotionally safe in the church? What does it mean to be safe with divergent ideas? We had other topics, for example, \u201cThe Church I want to belong to is \u2018prophetic\u2019<\/em>.\u201d That isn\u2019t only a focus on the ministry of Ellen White, it\u2019s also about regaining our prophetic voice in the culture, speaking to issues of justice in the culture. I can\u2019t really pick one of those many topics over and above the other; but overarching is a compelling belief that the Church I want to belong to has to commit itself to inclusiveness<\/strong><\/em>. It must study the \u2018why\u2019 and the \u2018how\u2019 of diversity. It has to say, \u2018we must constantly be guarding against our tendencies to push others out, or restrict those who don\u2019t see the world, or the Church, or Scripture exactly as we do\u2019.<\/p>\n I get to see this process as I travel around. I see communities that embrace that kind of collaboration and inclusivity. Frankly, it is highly encouraging to me! One of the reasons I love coming to GAiN, is that I meet with a whole community of people for whom that is a kind of an unwritten motto, that\u2019s the Church they want to belong to, and blessedly they\u2019re in the process of creating that in the media.<\/p>\n Vanesa Pizzuto: <\/strong><\/p>\n I heard you just say that you want to belong to an \u2018inclusive church\u2019, and I think many of us resonate with that. But, what would you say to young people who\u2019ve been waiting for this to take place, and they feel not only are we not moving towards inclusiveness, but we are moving away? <\/strong><\/p>\n BK:<\/strong> There clearly has to be a time where we invite everyone in leadership to actually to get into conversation with youth and young adults. The danger for those who work in leadership is that it becomes something of an echo-chamber. You talk with 65-year-old peers, and you think you make sense of the Church. But if you have that same conversation with 20- and 25-year-olds \u2013 it won\u2019t be the same conversation. And the challenge is that we stop listening to those voices. We define the Church as those who have similarly \u2018mature\u2019 viewpoints with us, and sound like us \u2013 that\u2019s our vision of the Church.<\/p>\n I\u2019m blessed to have two sons, both young adults active in the Church, who talk to me about their vision. I am blessed to know a lot of the young adults in the congregation I belong to and young pastors I have met around. I hear the frustration often. I\u2019m aware, however, as you watch the wheels of administration turn, there is a commitment on the part of more and more leaders to do that kind of listening. I would always love it to go more rapidly! One of the key pieces is for the young adults themselves to not take the first \u2018no\u2019. We\u2019re all tempted to say, \u201cThey didn\u2019t want me, they said \u2018no\u2019 to my initiative.\u201d<\/p>\n I have done a lot of coaching over the years with young adults who want to be engaged with Church leadership. One of the things I say to them is, \u201cbe persistent \u2013 persistence wins in this system. If you don\u2019t go away, and you continue knocking on the door, you will be like the persistent widow of whom Jesus praised. You will find success! Because, if you stand in the doorway of a leader\u2019s office, and you\u2019re back there repeatedly, ultimately, you\u2019ll get the invitation in. Your ideas will become part of the currency. I\u2019ve watched this happen with many young adults. It never happens as rapidly as it should, but it is also not as challenging. Talk with your Conference leadership, talk with your Union, ask for appointments, get real time. Don\u2019t wait for a glancing blow at a meeting, set up an appointment and talk with them. They will come to value you because they don\u2019t know many other youth and young adults. And if you know how to talk with them, if you make it a safe conversation for them, you become their expert on young adults and so your ideas get heard. It\u2019s a simple process of persistence.<\/p>\n DN: As you have mixed and mingled with the 180+ GAiN participants here in Bucharest, most of whom are European communicators, what is your impression? <\/strong><\/p>\n BK:<\/strong> It\u2019s like visiting one of those oxygen bars at the airport, those places where you can go and breath deeper oxygen.\u00b9 I have that sense when I am around creative people. What I love about GAiN is that there is no perceptible competition going on. Oh, I\u2019m sure everyone hopes to give a better presentation, but I love the fact that there is a built-in sense of collaboration\u2026 That non-competitive attitude, the sharing of creative people is to me the genius of GAiN. And frankly, the genius that I wish we could bring over into other parts of the ministry of the Church.<\/p>\n We tend to do a lot of promotion to each other. We show videos and PowerPoints of how well our department is doing, as a way of defending our territory. What I love here is that people talk candidly about the things that work, and that didn\u2019t work. That\u2019s real life \u2013 that\u2019s the experience of creatives constantly innovating. The attitudes here, the warmth, the conviviality \u2013 does feel like enhanced oxygen. I have thoroughly enjoyed it.<\/p>\n VP: Bill, you have made \u2018grace\u2019 the signature sound of your ministry, the foundational stone, and I wonder why? <\/strong><\/p>\n BK:<\/strong> Believe it or not, the Lord can still turn around the life of a 50-year-old Church leader \u2013 and He did. A dozen years ago, not too long after I became the editor of the Adventist Review<\/em>, God led me through a profound renewal. It\u2019s not the easiest role in which to have a renewal, because on one side you are out presenting and talking, and you\u2019re going through this significant transformation at the same time. God pushed some people into my life who worked with me patiently and quietly, who helped me appreciate the Gospel more deeply that I had ever had. Out of that journey came this ministry now dubbed \u2018Grace Notes\u2019.\u00b2 It began as Sabbath morning messages to six or seven friends, most of them pastors. Pretty soon there were hundreds and then thousands of subscribers – and currently there are hundreds of thousands receiving these messages. They are open source, and it doesn\u2019t matter who gets the credit.<\/p>\n What I have discovered is that this Church is hungry for the message of grace<\/strong>.<\/em> We have done well at wagging our finger at each other for a long time. We have done well at communicating our concern about a good solid lifestyle, but what we haven\u2019t told people is that the Gospel is what empowers that change, and that the understanding of grace is actually more transformative than any amount of rule keeping we can do. So, for me, it\u2019s been a personal experience. I describe to friends \u2018Grace Notes\u2019 as my weekly lab. I make myself wrestle with grace in my own life. I talk about things I\u2019m experiencing, not in the first person \u2013 but those who know me can read a fair amount of autobiography. Inevitably, we tell out own story, and for me \u2018Grace Notes\u2019 is where I deal with grace in my life, in the life of the Church and in the life of the wider community. It has become for me that piece of joy that I never saw coming. God is using it in a way that frankly I never predicted, in places I will never get to.<\/p>\n VP: Thank you, Bill. It has been an honour to have you with us here at GAiN, and if you will allow us, we would love to pray with you before we go.<\/strong><\/p>\n Dear Jesus, thank you for the ministry of Bill. Thank you for having deep thinkers, and for people who are wrestling with grace leading our Church. We pray that you bless him and that you give him more discernment, more love, more kindness, more compassion as he continues to guide us in a new ministry and new role. Thank you \u2013 because you always go before us, with You we have nothing to fear. In your name \u2013 Amen.<\/p>\n \u00b9 It\u2019s quite possible that the idea of an oxygen bar is new \u2013 as it was to DN! 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